Book I - Part 06 - Confutation Of Other Philosophers Poem Rhyme Scheme and Analysis
Rhyme Scheme: ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRST UVWXWTYZMA2B2C2D2E2F 2G2F2F2F2B2F2H2I2F2F 2JJ2K2L2M2F2N2O2P2BF 2N2BQ2R2F2F2BJ2S2 BXT2U2V2W2HX2BY2Z2JF 2MA3B2B3MC3XP2WXU2D3 JE3A3 F3D3G3H3XXXXXXXF2XXX JE3N2F2WI3J3K3L3F2F2 MB2A3L3F2N2M3XF2B2XN 3F2XK2F2XO3XF2F2XXF2 XMF2F2F2A3XFF2XB3I2I 2XF2P3F2F2XWF2BF2MZQ 3O3BD3MF2F2D2L2BAnd on such grounds it is that those who held | A |
The stuff of things is fire and out of fire | B |
Alone the cosmic sum is formed are seen | C |
Mightily from true reason to have lapsed | D |
Of whom chief leader to do battle comes | E |
That Heraclitus famous for dark speech | F |
Among the silly not the serious Greeks | G |
Who search for truth For dolts are ever prone | H |
That to bewonder and adore which hides | I |
Beneath distorted words holding that true | J |
Which sweetly tickles in their stupid ears | K |
Or which is rouged in finely finished phrase | L |
For how I ask can things so varied be | M |
If formed of fire single and pure No whit | N |
'Twould help for fire to be condensed or thinned | O |
If all the parts of fire did still preserve | P |
But fire's own nature seen before in gross | Q |
The heat were keener with the parts compressed | R |
Milder again when severed or dispersed | S |
And more than this thou canst conceive of naught | T |
That from such causes could become much less | U |
Might earth's variety of things be born | V |
From any fires soever dense or rare | W |
This too if they suppose a void in things | X |
Then fires can be condensed and still left rare | W |
But since they see such opposites of thought | T |
Rising against them and are loath to leave | Y |
An unmixed void in things they fear the steep | Z |
And lose the road of truth Nor do they see | M |
That if from things we take away the void | A2 |
All things are then condensed and out of all | B2 |
One body made which has no power to dart | C2 |
Swiftly from out itself not anything | D2 |
As throws the fire its light and warmth around | E2 |
Giving thee proof its parts are not compact | F2 |
But if perhaps they think in other wise | G2 |
Fires through their combinations can be quenched | F2 |
And change their substance very well behold | F2 |
If fire shall spare to do so in no part | F2 |
Then heat will perish utterly and all | B2 |
And out of nothing would the world be formed | F2 |
For change in anything from out its bounds | H2 |
Means instant death of that which was before | I2 |
And thus a somewhat must persist unharmed | F2 |
Amid the world lest all return to naught | F2 |
And born from naught abundance thrive anew | J |
Now since indeed there are those surest bodies | J2 |
Which keep their nature evermore the same | K2 |
Upon whose going out and coming in | L2 |
And changed order things their nature change | M2 |
And all corporeal substances transformed | F2 |
'Tis thine to know those primal bodies then | N2 |
Are not of fire For 'twere of no avail | O2 |
Should some depart and go away and some | P2 |
Be added new and some be changed in order | B |
If still all kept their nature of old heat | F2 |
For whatsoever they created then | N2 |
Would still in any case be only fire | B |
The truth I fancy this bodies there are | Q2 |
Whose clashings motions order posture shapes | R2 |
Produce the fire and which by order changed | F2 |
Do change the nature of the thing produced | F2 |
And are thereafter nothing like to fire | B |
Nor whatso else has power to send its bodies | J2 |
With impact touching on the senses' touch | S2 |
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Again to say that all things are but fire | B |
And no true thing in number of all things | X |
Exists but fire as this same fellow says | T2 |
Seems crazed folly For the man himself | U2 |
Against the senses by the senses fights | V2 |
And hews at that through which is all belief | W2 |
Through which indeed unto himself is known | H |
The thing he calls the fire For though he thinks | X2 |
The senses truly can perceive the fire | B |
He thinks they cannot as regards all else | Y2 |
Which still are palpably as clear to sense | Z2 |
To me a thought inept and crazy too | J |
For whither shall we make appeal for what | F2 |
More certain than our senses can there be | M |
Whereby to mark asunder error and truth | A3 |
Besides why rather do away with all | B2 |
And wish to allow heat only then deny | B3 |
The fire and still allow all else to be | M |
Alike the madness either way it seems | C3 |
Thus whosoe'er have held the stuff of things | X |
To be but fire and out of fire the sum | P2 |
And whosoever have constituted air | W |
As first beginning of begotten things | X |
And all whoever have held that of itself | U2 |
Water alone contrives things or that earth | D3 |
Createth all and changes things anew | J |
To divers natures mightily they seem | E3 |
A long way to have wandered from the truth | A3 |
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Add too whoever make the primal stuff | F3 |
Twofold by joining air to fire and earth | D3 |
To water add who deem that things can grow | G3 |
Out of the four fire earth and breath and rain | H3 |
As first Empedocles of Acragas | X |
Whom that three cornered isle of all the lands | X |
Bore on her coasts around which flows and flows | X |
In mighty bend and bay the Ionic seas | X |
Splashing the brine from off their gray green waves | X |
Here billowing onward through the narrow straits | X |
Swift ocean cuts her boundaries from the shores | X |
Of the Italic mainland Here the waste | F2 |
Charybdis and here Aetna rumbles threats | X |
To gather anew such furies of its flames | X |
As with its force anew to vomit fires | X |
Belched from its throat and skyward bear anew | J |
Its lightnings' flash And though for much she seem | E3 |
The mighty and the wondrous isle to men | N2 |
Most rich in all good things and fortified | F2 |
With generous strength of heroes she hath ne'er | W |
Possessed within her aught of more renown | I3 |
Nor aught more holy wonderful and dear | J3 |
Than this true man Nay ever so far and pure | K3 |
The lofty music of his breast divine | L3 |
Lifts up its voice and tells of glories found | F2 |
That scarce he seems of human stock create | F2 |
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Yet he and those forementioned known to be | M |
So far beneath him less than he in all | B2 |
Though as discoverers of much goodly truth | A3 |
They gave as 'twere from out of the heart's own shrine | L3 |
Responses holier and soundlier based | F2 |
Than ever the Pythia pronounced for men | N2 |
From out the tripod and the Delphian laurel | M3 |
Have still in matter of first elements | X |
Made ruin of themselves and great men great | F2 |
Indeed and heavy there for them the fall | B2 |
First because banishing the void from things | X |
They yet assign them motion and allow | N3 |
Things soft and loosely textured to exist | F2 |
As air dew fire earth animals and grains | X |
Without admixture of void amid their frame | K2 |
Next because thinking there can be no end | F2 |
In cutting bodies down to less and less | X |
Nor pause established to their breaking up | O3 |
They hold there is no minimum in things | X |
Albeit we see the boundary point of aught | F2 |
Is that which to our senses seems its least | F2 |
Whereby thou mayst conjecture that because | X |
The things thou canst not mark have boundary points | X |
They surely have their minimums Then too | F2 |
Since these philosophers ascribe to things | X |
Soft primal germs which we behold to be | M |
Of birth and body mortal thus throughout | F2 |
The sum of things must be returned to naught | F2 |
And born from naught abundance thrive anew | F2 |
Thou seest how far each doctrine stands from truth | A3 |
And next these bodies are among themselves | X |
In many ways poisons and foes to each | F |
Wherefore their congress will destroy them quite | F2 |
Or drive asunder as we see in storms | X |
Rains winds and lightnings all asunder fly | B3 |
Thus too if all things are create of four | I2 |
And all again dissolved into the four | I2 |
How can the four be called the primal germs | X |
Of things more than all things themselves be thought | F2 |
By retroversion primal germs of them | P3 |
For ever alternately are both begot | F2 |
With interchange of nature and aspect | F2 |
From immemorial time But if percase | X |
Thou think'st the frame of fire and earth the air | W |
The dew of water can in such wise meet | F2 |
As not by mingling to resign their nature | B |
From them for thee no world can be create | F2 |
No thing of breath no stock or stalk of tree | M |
In the wild congress of this varied heap | Z |
Each thing its proper nature will display | Q3 |
And air will palpably be seen mixed up | O3 |
With earth together unquenched heat with water | B |
But primal germs in bringing things to birth | D3 |
Must have a latent unseen quality | M |
Lest some outstanding alien element | F2 |
Confuse and minish in the thing create | F2 |
Its proper being | D2 |
But these men begin | L2 |
From heaven and from its fire | B |
Lucretius
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