Book I - Part 06 - Confutation Of Other Philosophers Poem Rhyme Scheme and Analysis

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And on such grounds it is that those who heldA
The stuff of things is fire and out of fireB
Alone the cosmic sum is formed are seenC
Mightily from true reason to have lapsedD
Of whom chief leader to do battle comesE
That Heraclitus famous for dark speechF
Among the silly not the serious GreeksG
Who search for truth For dolts are ever proneH
That to bewonder and adore which hidesI
Beneath distorted words holding that trueJ
Which sweetly tickles in their stupid earsK
Or which is rouged in finely finished phraseL
For how I ask can things so varied beM
If formed of fire single and pure No whitN
'Twould help for fire to be condensed or thinnedO
If all the parts of fire did still preserveP
But fire's own nature seen before in grossQ
The heat were keener with the parts compressedR
Milder again when severed or dispersedS
And more than this thou canst conceive of naughtT
That from such causes could become much lessU
Might earth's variety of things be bornV
From any fires soever dense or rareW
This too if they suppose a void in thingsX
Then fires can be condensed and still left rareW
But since they see such opposites of thoughtT
Rising against them and are loath to leaveY
An unmixed void in things they fear the steepZ
And lose the road of truth Nor do they seeM
That if from things we take away the voidA2
All things are then condensed and out of allB2
One body made which has no power to dartC2
Swiftly from out itself not anythingD2
As throws the fire its light and warmth aroundE2
Giving thee proof its parts are not compactF2
But if perhaps they think in other wiseG2
Fires through their combinations can be quenchedF2
And change their substance very well beholdF2
If fire shall spare to do so in no partF2
Then heat will perish utterly and allB2
And out of nothing would the world be formedF2
For change in anything from out its boundsH2
Means instant death of that which was beforeI2
And thus a somewhat must persist unharmedF2
Amid the world lest all return to naughtF2
And born from naught abundance thrive anewJ
Now since indeed there are those surest bodiesJ2
Which keep their nature evermore the sameK2
Upon whose going out and coming inL2
And changed order things their nature changeM2
And all corporeal substances transformedF2
'Tis thine to know those primal bodies thenN2
Are not of fire For 'twere of no availO2
Should some depart and go away and someP2
Be added new and some be changed in orderB
If still all kept their nature of old heatF2
For whatsoever they created thenN2
Would still in any case be only fireB
The truth I fancy this bodies there areQ2
Whose clashings motions order posture shapesR2
Produce the fire and which by order changedF2
Do change the nature of the thing producedF2
And are thereafter nothing like to fireB
Nor whatso else has power to send its bodiesJ2
With impact touching on the senses' touchS2
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Again to say that all things are but fireB
And no true thing in number of all thingsX
Exists but fire as this same fellow saysT2
Seems crazed folly For the man himselfU2
Against the senses by the senses fightsV2
And hews at that through which is all beliefW2
Through which indeed unto himself is knownH
The thing he calls the fire For though he thinksX2
The senses truly can perceive the fireB
He thinks they cannot as regards all elseY2
Which still are palpably as clear to senseZ2
To me a thought inept and crazy tooJ
For whither shall we make appeal for whatF2
More certain than our senses can there beM
Whereby to mark asunder error and truthA3
Besides why rather do away with allB2
And wish to allow heat only then denyB3
The fire and still allow all else to beM
Alike the madness either way it seemsC3
Thus whosoe'er have held the stuff of thingsX
To be but fire and out of fire the sumP2
And whosoever have constituted airW
As first beginning of begotten thingsX
And all whoever have held that of itselfU2
Water alone contrives things or that earthD3
Createth all and changes things anewJ
To divers natures mightily they seemE3
A long way to have wandered from the truthA3
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Add too whoever make the primal stuffF3
Twofold by joining air to fire and earthD3
To water add who deem that things can growG3
Out of the four fire earth and breath and rainH3
As first Empedocles of AcragasX
Whom that three cornered isle of all the landsX
Bore on her coasts around which flows and flowsX
In mighty bend and bay the Ionic seasX
Splashing the brine from off their gray green wavesX
Here billowing onward through the narrow straitsX
Swift ocean cuts her boundaries from the shoresX
Of the Italic mainland Here the wasteF2
Charybdis and here Aetna rumbles threatsX
To gather anew such furies of its flamesX
As with its force anew to vomit firesX
Belched from its throat and skyward bear anewJ
Its lightnings' flash And though for much she seemE3
The mighty and the wondrous isle to menN2
Most rich in all good things and fortifiedF2
With generous strength of heroes she hath ne'erW
Possessed within her aught of more renownI3
Nor aught more holy wonderful and dearJ3
Than this true man Nay ever so far and pureK3
The lofty music of his breast divineL3
Lifts up its voice and tells of glories foundF2
That scarce he seems of human stock createF2
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Yet he and those forementioned known to beM
So far beneath him less than he in allB2
Though as discoverers of much goodly truthA3
They gave as 'twere from out of the heart's own shrineL3
Responses holier and soundlier basedF2
Than ever the Pythia pronounced for menN2
From out the tripod and the Delphian laurelM3
Have still in matter of first elementsX
Made ruin of themselves and great men greatF2
Indeed and heavy there for them the fallB2
First because banishing the void from thingsX
They yet assign them motion and allowN3
Things soft and loosely textured to existF2
As air dew fire earth animals and grainsX
Without admixture of void amid their frameK2
Next because thinking there can be no endF2
In cutting bodies down to less and lessX
Nor pause established to their breaking upO3
They hold there is no minimum in thingsX
Albeit we see the boundary point of aughtF2
Is that which to our senses seems its leastF2
Whereby thou mayst conjecture that becauseX
The things thou canst not mark have boundary pointsX
They surely have their minimums Then tooF2
Since these philosophers ascribe to thingsX
Soft primal germs which we behold to beM
Of birth and body mortal thus throughoutF2
The sum of things must be returned to naughtF2
And born from naught abundance thrive anewF2
Thou seest how far each doctrine stands from truthA3
And next these bodies are among themselvesX
In many ways poisons and foes to eachF
Wherefore their congress will destroy them quiteF2
Or drive asunder as we see in stormsX
Rains winds and lightnings all asunder flyB3
Thus too if all things are create of fourI2
And all again dissolved into the fourI2
How can the four be called the primal germsX
Of things more than all things themselves be thoughtF2
By retroversion primal germs of themP3
For ever alternately are both begotF2
With interchange of nature and aspectF2
From immemorial time But if percaseX
Thou think'st the frame of fire and earth the airW
The dew of water can in such wise meetF2
As not by mingling to resign their natureB
From them for thee no world can be createF2
No thing of breath no stock or stalk of treeM
In the wild congress of this varied heapZ
Each thing its proper nature will displayQ3
And air will palpably be seen mixed upO3
With earth together unquenched heat with waterB
But primal germs in bringing things to birthD3
Must have a latent unseen qualityM
Lest some outstanding alien elementF2
Confuse and minish in the thing createF2
Its proper beingD2
But these men beginL2
From heaven and from its fireB

Lucretius



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